WebDAV oder FUSE MacOS

user1984 · January 30, 2023, 8:57am

Hallo,

ich teste gerade mit Cryptomator auf MacOS 10.15.7 Catalina.

Dabei bin ich auf folgendes gestoßen:
WebDAV: Finder Tags werden syncronisiert bzw. können verwendet werden
FUSE: Finder Tags werden nicht akzeptiert.

Da ich viele Dateien auf diese Weise tagge, benötige ich diese Funktion bzw. müsste mich umstellen, wenn WbDAV große andere Nachteile hätte.

Daher meine Frage:
Was sind - nicht nur allgemein - von wegen FUSE ist das neuerer System usw. die reellen Unterschiede zwischen FUSE und WebDAV auf dem Mac.

FUSE:
Tagging geht nicht!

WebDAV:
Dateien nur bis 4 GB Größe

Das ist das was ich bisher gefunden habe. Das darf gern berichtigt werden, wenn ich mich irre oder eine Einstellung falsch habe.

Grüße
Torsten

Michael · January 30, 2023, 9:51am

Ich meine das gilt nur für WebDAV in einer Windows Umgebung.

Darüber hinaus gibt es einige Berichte hier und bei Github, die von Stabilitätsproblemen mit WebDAV auf Macs mit M1 Chips berichten.
z.B.

github.com/cryptomator/cryptomator

Apple Silicon/M1 Chip: Crashes on WebDAV when altering files

opened 07:32PM - 20 Nov 20 UTC

closed 07:03AM - 28 Apr 21 UTC

pawelostr

type:upstream-bug os:mac mount:webdav state:has-workaround

### Description When a vault is mounted and I try to rename any folder inside of it, computer freezes and in few seconds crashes and restarts. It produced no logs in debug mode. ### System Setup * Operating system and version: macOS Big Sur 11.0.1 * Cryptomator version: 1.5.10 * Volume type: WebDAV ### Steps to Reproduce 1. Open a vault 2. Rename a folder #### Expected Behavior Folder is renamed #### Actual Behavior Computer crashes #### Reproducibility Always ### Additional Information Tried to unmount a vault and now Finder doesn't work. Previously it was fine.

github.com/cryptomator/cryptomator

MacOS freezes when opening vault or handling file in the vault

opened 05:40PM - 08 Jun 22 UTC

vfh862

type:bug os:mac state:awaiting-response

### Please agree to the following - [X] I have searched [existing issues](https…://github.com/cryptomator/cryptomator/issues?q=) for duplicates - [X] I agree to follow this project's [Code of Conduct](https://github.com/cryptomator/cryptomator/blob/develop/.github/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md) ### Summary a) Each time vault is unlocked b) almost each time a file in the vault is accessed (read/write), the Mac freezes completely for 10-20 seconds. ### What software is involved? - Operating System: MacOS 12.4 - Cryptomator: 1.6.4 (used in combination with iOS) - Cloud provider : iCloud or Dropbox - Apps : all, including Finder ### Volume Type _No response_ ### Steps to Reproduce 1. Unlock vault : Mac freezes for 10-20 seconds Or 1. (once Vault is unlocked) 2. open vault disk 3. select file to open, click : Mac freezes for 10-20 seconds 4. files open ### Expected Behavior I would expect the Mac not to freeze when unlocking the vault or opening/saving a file ### Actual Behavior The Mac freezes for a while (10-20 seconds) when unlocking the fault or opening/saving a file ### Reproducibility Always ### Relevant Log Output ```shell 18:27:27.159 [main] INFO org.cryptomator.launcher.Cryptomator - Starting Cryptomator 1.6.4 on Mac OS X 11.4 (x86_64) 18:27:27.205 [main] INFO org.cryptomator.ipc.Server - Spawning IPC server listening on socket /Users/vhmba/Library/Application Support/Cryptomator/ipc.socket 18:27:28.641 [JavaFX Application Thread] INFO o.c.ui.launcher.FxApplicationStarter - JavaFX Runtime started. 18:27:35.783 [JavaFX Application Thread] INFO o.cryptomator.ui.fxapp.UpdateChecker - Current version: 1.6.4, lastest version: 1.6.10 19:20:18.233 [App Scheduled Executor 01] INFO o.c.common.settings.SettingsProvider - Settings saved to /Users/vhmba/Library/Application Support/Cryptomator/settings.json 19:28:00.575 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG org.cryptomator.logging.DebugMode - Debug mode enabled 19:28:01.576 [App Scheduled Executor 02] DEBUG o.c.common.settings.SettingsProvider - Attempting to save settings to /Users/vhmba/Library/Application Support/Cryptomator/settings.json 19:28:01.579 [App Scheduled Executor 02] INFO o.c.common.settings.SettingsProvider - Settings saved to /Users/vhmba/Library/Application Support/Cryptomator/settings.json 19:28:14.671 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG o.c.common.vaults.VaultStats - stop recording stats 19:28:14.676 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG o.c.ui.launcher.AppLifecycleListener - Allow quitting without prompt: false 19:28:14.713 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG org.cryptomator.common.CommonsModule - Starting App Background Thread 004 19:28:14.713 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG o.cryptomator.ui.fxapp.FxApplication - Start unlock workflow for Documents sécurisés 19:28:15.018 [App Background Thread 004] DEBUG o.c.cryptofs.common.BackupHelper - Verified backup file: /Users/vhmba/Library/Mobile Documents/iCloud~com~setolabs~Cryptomator/Documents/Documents sécurisés/masterkey.cryptomator.2B56EB6E.bkup 19:28:15.023 [App Background Thread 004] DEBUG o.c.cryptofs.common.BackupHelper - Verified backup file: /Users/vhmba/Library/Mobile Documents/iCloud~com~setolabs~Cryptomator/Documents/Documents sécurisés/vault.cryptomator.35093F04.bkup 19:28:15.056 [App Background Thread 004] DEBUG o.cryptomator.cryptofs.ReadonlyFlag - Vault opened for read and write. 19:28:17.402 [Thread-13] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.402 [Thread-12] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.404 [Thread-15] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.404 [Thread-14] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.404 [Thread-16] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.405 [Thread-17] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.410 [Thread-19] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.412 [Thread-18] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.locks.LockManager - Creating ReadWriteLock for [] 19:28:17.414 [Thread-18] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Acquired read path lock for '[]' 19:28:17.414 [Thread-18] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.locks.LockManager - Creating ReadWriteLock for [] 19:28:17.415 [Thread-18] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Acquired read data lock for '[]' 19:28:17.417 [Thread-20] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.428 [JavaFX Application Thread] INFO o.c.ui.unlock.UnlockWorkflow - Unlock of 'Documents sécurisés' succeeded. 19:28:17.425 [Thread-18] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - getattr / (lastModifiedTime: 2022-06-07T18:11:42Z, lastAccessTime: 2022-06-07T18:11:42Z, creationTime: 2021-12-12T18:14:38Z, isRegularFile: false, isDirectory: true, isSymbolicLink: false, isOther: false, size: 704, fileKey: (dev=1000004,ino=28857204)) 19:28:17.429 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG org.cryptomator.common.CommonsModule - Starting App Background Thread 005 19:28:17.429 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG o.c.common.vaults.VaultStats - start recording stats 19:28:17.430 [Thread-18] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Released read data lock for '[]' 19:28:17.430 [Thread-18] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Released read path lock for '[]' 19:28:17.431 [Thread-22] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.431 [Thread-25] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.431 [Thread-26] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-27] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-29] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-28] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.431 [Thread-24] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-33] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-32] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-35] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-34] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-36] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.431 [Thread-23] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.433 [Thread-37] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.433 [Thread-39] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-31] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.433 [Thread-38] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.432 [Thread-30] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.435 [Thread-40] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.436 [Thread-41] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.437 [Thread-42] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.437 [Thread-43] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.437 [Thread-44] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.438 [Thread-45] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.438 [Thread-46] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.438 [Thread-47] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.440 [Thread-48] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.440 [Thread-49] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.441 [Thread-50] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.442 [Thread-51] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.442 [Thread-52] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.443 [Thread-53] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.443 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG org.cryptomator.common.CommonsModule - Starting App Background Thread 006 19:28:17.459 [Thread-55] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.495 [Thread-56] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Acquired read path lock for '[]' 19:28:17.495 [Thread-56] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Acquired read data lock for '[]' 19:28:17.495 [Thread-56] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - getattr / (lastModifiedTime: 2022-06-07T18:11:42Z, lastAccessTime: 2022-06-07T18:11:42Z, creationTime: 2021-12-12T18:14:38Z, isRegularFile: false, isDirectory: true, isSymbolicLink: false, isOther: false, size: 704, fileKey: (dev=1000004,ino=28857204)) 19:28:17.495 [Thread-56] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Released read data lock for '[]' 19:28:17.495 [Thread-56] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Released read path lock for '[]' 19:28:17.496 [JavaFX Application Thread] INFO o.cryptomator.ui.common.VaultService - Revealed Documents sécurisés 19:28:17.500 [Thread-57] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.501 [Thread-58] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893288960 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.578 [Thread-59] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893227520 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.579 [Thread-60] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893227520 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.579 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.locks.LockManager - Creating ReadWriteLock for [, .hidden] 19:28:17.579 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Acquired read path lock for '[]' 19:28:17.580 [Thread-62] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893227520 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.580 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Acquired read path lock for '[, .hidden]' 19:28:17.580 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.locks.LockManager - Creating ReadWriteLock for [, .hidden] 19:28:17.580 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Acquired read data lock for '[, .hidden]' 19:28:17.580 [Thread-63] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - statfs / (27893227520 / 250685575168) 19:28:17.583 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Released read data lock for '[, .hidden]' 19:28:17.583 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Released read path lock for '[, .hidden]' 19:28:17.583 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Released read path lock for '[]' 19:28:17.583 [Thread-61] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - getattr /.hidden failed, node not found 19:28:17.599 [Thread-64] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Acquired read path lock for '[]' 19:28:17.599 [Thread-64] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Acquired read data lock for '[]' 19:28:17.599 [Thread-64] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - readdir / 19:28:17.604 [Thread-64] TRACE o.c.c.dir.CryptoDirectoryStream - OPEN 19:28:21.198 [JavaFX Application Thread] DEBUG o.cryptomator.ui.fxapp.FxApplication - Showing Preferences 19:29:00.433 [Thread-64] TRACE o.c.c.dir.CryptoDirectoryStream - CLOSE 19:29:00.433 [Thread-64] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Released read data lock for '[]' 19:29:00.433 [Thread-64] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Released read path lock for '[]' 19:29:00.434 [Thread-65] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Acquired read path lock for '[]' 19:29:00.434 [Thread-65] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Acquired read data lock for '[]' 19:29:00.434 [Thread-65] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.ReadOnlyAdapter - getattr / (lastModifiedTime: 2022-06-07T18:11:42Z, lastAccessTime: 2022-06-07T18:11:42Z, creationTime: 2021-12-12T18:14:38Z, isRegularFile: false, isDirectory: true, isSymbolicLink: false, isOther: false, size: 704, fileKey: (dev=1000004,ino=28857204)) 19:29:00.435 [Thread-65] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.DataRLockImpl - Released read data lock for '[]' 19:29:00.435 [Thread-65] TRACE o.c.f.fuse.locks.PathRLockImpl - Released read path lock for '[]' 19:29:00.439 [Thread-66] TRACE o.c.frontend.fuse.locks.LockManager - Deleting ReadWriteLock for [, .hidden] ``` ### Anything else? Added cryptomator log (unlocking at ca. 19.27) Hope it helps!

Info: die 1.7. Beta die jüngst erschienen ist unterstützt auch FUSE-T auf Mac.

Alles in allem empfinde ich WebDAV “alt” und fast immer nicht wirklich gut/stabil ins OS implementiert und gewartet. Ich persönlich nutze darum lieber alternativen.

user1984 · January 30, 2023, 9:57am

OK! Dann betrifft mich das nicht.

Gibt es eine generelle Größenbeschränkung des Laufwerkes bei WebDAV? Also muss ich bei der Tresorgröße etwas beachten?

user1984 · January 30, 2023, 10:01am

Hab aktuell noch Intel-Macs im Einsatz. Aber danke für den Hinweis. Dann muss ich bei neuer Hardware aufpassen, ob es schon eine Lösung gibt.

user1984 · January 30, 2023, 10:03am

Was ist an FUSE-T anders?
Bezüglich der Unterstützung von zB. Finder Tags in Dateien/Ordnern?

2000-cuba · February 1, 2023, 1:17pm

In der Beta kann ich nicht direkt von WebDAV auf FUSE umstellen.
Was muss ich noch beachten bzw. tun?

Michael · February 1, 2023, 1:46pm

Ich hab selbst keinen Mac im Einsatz, aber I h denke mal du wirst FUSE-T installiert haben müssen.
(Link siehe oben)

2000-cuba · February 1, 2023, 2:11pm

Danke dir.

Also dann beide pkg-Files, ja?

SailReal · February 2, 2023, 11:41am

Die fuse-t-macos-installer-*.pkg-Datei ist ausreichend.